i still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
Fact check: Suicide IS NOT the leading cause of death in the US for people age 10 to 50. It is the 2nd leading cause in 15-24 yr olds behind car wrecks though.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/usa-cause-of-death-by-age-and-gender
Just for fun I'm going to send that war graph above to my FIL just to fuck with his head..lol
edit...need to fact check myself...suicide is 3rd in the 15-24 group behind posioning and homicides. Hmmm, I would have never guessed posioning.
i have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
The fact that you don't know how they'll react is ine of weirdest parts of this religion. It seems every JW as their own code of rules.
My in-laws never celebrated xmas or birthdays, but they would just happen to give gifts around that time. Same with their grand kids(mine). It's never a xmas present but they'll get some sort of gifts...probably the week after xmas.
Funny story...My son (11) once poclaimed if he didn't get his way, on whatever it was he was insisting upon that day, he was going to go live with grandma and grandpa. I go, if you go live with them you won't get xmas. He says, with a smile, sooo? I don't care, they'll still buy me presents...we'll just call it Bryce's present day..LOL!
alright.
let's have the ultimate discussion on "higher education.
" let's talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Never A JW, but I have a B.S. in economics, and an MBA. I've never had trouble earning money and being in the top 5% of income earners, but I think that's more because of my drive and the schools I went to than the actual degrees. Picking the right school is even more important now I feel since so many get degrees these days.
However, I see a lot of posts here and else where that talk about college as though it's some sort of trade school. The value of college IS NOT getting a good job. In fact, chances are you may never work in your actual field of study. I never have.
The reason to go to college is to learn how to learn. The exposure to new ideas, people from other cultures, having to study stuff you had no interest in, the networking; it all pays off in the end.
Five years after college I would have said college was bs. Twenty five years later I can say without a doubt going to college was the single best decision I ever made.
no one really expects 'perfection' of their fellow humans, even of those in high station.
our past president, bill clinton certainly demonstrated that men in high station can and do give into acts that are not accepted by the public at large.
likewise, i doubt anyone expects that joseph rutherford would be perfect, but we would expect that as a human, he had his ways.. what about "true" spiritual leaders?
Bill Clinton certainly demonstrated that men in high station can and do give into acts that are not accepted by the public at large.
Hold the phone!....Forget Rutherford for a minute.....Acts?...I hope the "act" you're talking about is cheating on his wife
at least i think thats what its called.
she was watching it at my parents house just now.
i asked what she was watching on my mums tablet and mum said whilst laughing 'oh sorry but she wants to watch bible stories' then all i heard was something about jehovah and keeping rooms tidy.
Don't apologize...It's your daughter and you have every right to enforce whatever rules you deem appropriate.
I take it one step(or maybe many steps) further...If my kids JW grandparents want a relationship with their grand kids then they need to behave. I have a zero tolerence policy when it comes to my kids being exposed to dangerous situations or information.
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muslim genesis... eve needs a bigger leaf... her legs are showing.
COOTWF
Great pic and a great reminder of why electing religious fundamentalists is always a bad idea.
like jw are crap is there any religon dat is atally conneced to god?.
The fact there are a lot of religions only proves that it's a good business to be in, not that there is a God.
And, if there is a God, do you really think they would make it so difficult if they wanted you to know or cared in the slightest about you?
my husband insists all the men chosen to be prophets were inperfect men.
i agreed.
i do not agree that what they prophacied about; said was from the word of god; could ever be wrong.
True prophets being wrong?....this is easy
Since there is no God there are no prophets. Trying to argue with someone about why your lie is more believable than their lie makes no sense.
a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.
after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.
of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.
Billy, what I find is that my FIL, an elder with over 40 years in the borg, wants to talk about such things. The problem is just the slightest bit of counter-information makes him turn into a mad man. Very mad in fact. Oh wait, that's not a problem, that's the fun part LOL!
designs...I thought JW's believed in an old Earth. Fairly certain I've read that in their literature. They just think people appeared 6,000 years ago. Not sure what they think was happening throughout those other 14 billion years.
a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.
after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.
of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.
Snare and racket, thanks.
I have studied evolution for over 30 years( a promise I made to a couple professors who wanted me to study the sciences instead of persuing Law and Business degrees..haha) so I'm not to worried about the conversation. However, the JW's seem to have some theories that are unique. The fact that they are taught by people who don't understand the subject matter leads to a varity of opinions making it even more difficult to know which hairbrain theory he'll latch on to. Sometimes he'll even conflate two theories and make up his own.
Btw, not to be a jerk, but I should clarify some of your info.
First, there are not billions of known fossils in the record. Not even close. (edit; I think you're talking about Fossils period for which there are probably billions if you count all the stuff people just pick up and take home or ignore altogether..I'm talking about those that provide the record for the evolution of species)
The box car quote you refer to was from the publication, "The Origin of Life, 5 questions worth asking" which I believe was published in 2010. The quote was actually a misquote taken from a book written by Fred Smith. And, the quote was that there wasn't enough fossils to fill a box car. Obviously that is not true.
Another question, do JWs have a position of transitionary fossils like Ambulocetus (walking whale) or Archaeopteryx (bird to dinosaur)
